Sunday 4 October 2015

Under the Lake (time shift)

It is better to know some of the questions than all of the answers.
- James Thurber

Or, if you want to be all obvious about it:

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which when you looked at it the right way, did not become still more complicated.
- Poul Anderson

These names.

Me:  So, what did you think of that then?

Him:  What did you think of that?

Me:  It reminded me a bit of The Satan Pit.  I liked the 'base under siege' aspect of it.  I thought it was incredibly strong.  It zipped by very quickly.  Really well-written, really well-acted, very well-directed.  It looked great.  Tense, edge-of-the-seat stuff.  I thought the music was really good.  I thoroughly enjoyed that.  That's the best episode we've had in a long time. 

Him:  I think I'm too tired to watch these properly.

Me:  Did you enjoy it?

Him:  Yeah, but I just don't remember any of it.

Me:  I think with this one - 'cause there're a few things that've leaked that you don't know about - this one's been told with part two first.  Which is...  Finally.  In a time-travel-

Him:  So, finally, more than fifty years into a time-travel related show they're doing something with the fact that it's a time-travel related show?

Me:  The way that it's structured - even though it's a two-parter - it does remind me of another Doctor Who story.

Him:  Okay.

Me:  It reminds me of The Ark.

Him:  Ooo...  Yeah.  That was about the only other - that was so long ago.1  That one was really good as well.

Me:  And the Monoids...  I think the Monoids might be coming back, 'cause we've seen them as hand puppets in Time of the Doctor.2

Him:  Yeah, The Ark was a good one.  The cliffhanger of the stature being finished-

Me:  Yes!

Him:  That was all really good.  That Monoid guy'd just waited there for them all to come back.

Me:  Under the Lake was very clever.  There's a named character in there, a character called Prentis, who we haven't met yet.  So, do you think the Doctor's dead?

Him:  Oh, yeah.  Definitely.

Me:  Uh huh.  There was a lot to do with sound and vision-

Him:  The second that there was the ghost out there I knew it was going to be the Doctor.  Because that's how it goes.

Me:  Well, yeah. 

Him:  It had to be, because the other ones were in the chamber and while they probably could've got out through the walls - I don't really know why they're stuck in that chamber in the first place...  Do all underwater bases have ghost-proof chambers?

Me:  Yeah, I think so.  It comes as standard.

Him:  Right.  If it had been one of the other people that went with the Doctor...  It doesn't really feel like a cliffhanger.  It feels like a spoiler. 

Me:  But if it'd been all three of them?

Him:  Yeah, that would've been cool.  But it wasn't.

Me:  That was the only bit that almost didn't work.  I knew it was going to be the Doctor - it had to be.

Him:  It had to be.

Me:  Otherwise it doesn't up the jeopardy.  It means that Clara's stuck-

Him:  I feel it would've been better if...  I dunno.  I felt like that bit lasted just slightly too long, with Clara going, "No!  No!  No!  No!  No!  NO!  NO!  NO!  NO!  NO!  NO!"


Him:  "NO!"

Me:  Ha!  It wasn't as bad as the Aliens of London one, was it?  There the endings just didn't stop.

  That at least had, like, five endings.  It wasn't one ending that was, "NO!  NO!  NO!"

Me:  We got the, "We need to talk," line in there, but it didn't go all Walking Dead which I thought was quite nice.  "But, don't you see?" got said twice.  Yeah.  Autons and the Nethersphere getting a mention was cool.  The Doctor came across as much more alien than he has done in a long time.  I like the idea that he's got the cards.

Him:  There's something bizarre with Peter Capaldi's Doctor.  He's been written in a really unique way, because he has almost no understanding of people, whereas in the past he's had complete understanding of people.

Me:  Yeah.  I know that the temptation is to say, like I just did, that he's more alien, but I think he's being written more as the god-like figure that he represents.  Like I've said before, the Doctor and the Master are essentially acting as gods and humans that encounter them...  In a weird way, humans are the fleeting ghosts that flicker through a Time Lord's existence.  Everything's temporary, because they're so much more-  Basically, they're gods.  They're immortal.  Near enough.  They could hang around forever.  It's very Greek.  The last two...  I think it's been dialled up a lot more.  Impressive stuff.  Very strong.  Were you expecting the Doctor to say it was a base under siege? 

Him:  Oh, yes.

Me:  That was great.  I've not really got much more to say.  Until we've seen the next part, it's hard to really say anything. 

Him:  It'd be easier to watch if it wasn't so late and I wasn't so tired.

Me:  It's very late now.  Can I act as a bit of a Cassandra?  Can I throw out a  semi-prediction here?  We know that the writing that the TARDIS can't translate - which, obviously we saw in The Satan Pit as well -

Him:  Why does he never assume it's just a scribble?

Me:  It's been scratched in as well.  The rest of it's-  Actually, it reminded me of Quatermass and the Pit.3

Him:  Quamertass and the Hole?

Me:  Ha!  You've got this buried thing...  It was nice seeing the Doctor put all the pieces together and uncover it as it's going along, but...  Here we go.  I think that this ghost process must be reversible.  And we know that Clara got 'infected' as well.  It must be a reversible process.  And I think that's probably going to come in...2

Him:  Maybe it's just really dark?

Me:  Could be, could be. 

Him:  "You want your grown-up Doctor Who?"

Me:  "Here's your grown-up Doctor Who!  Now, stop your weeping."

Him:  Ha!

Me:  I think we'll have to wait until next week to find out what's really going with that, but that's not a bad position to be in.  Are we going to make any noises?

Him:  I thought the next time trailer was bizarre. 

Me:  Any noises?

Him:  I just thought I'd, y'know, fling that in.

Me:  And on that bombshell!

1.  There was a really subtle nod to The Ark in The Magician's Apprentice, don't forget...

2.  I don't.

3.  And - as with Cold War - there's another underwater tribute to the Alien franchise.  Mr Fincher's this time, rather than Mr Scott's first bash.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

I am enjoying the new series over all.
I wanted to ask if you could send me a text at some point pretty please? I've recently got a new phone and am convinced I have your old number down rather than the new one. Thanks hun.