The truth is more important than the facts.
- Frank Lloyd Wright
Me: So, that’s week
three of Doctor Who, Season 8. Before I
say anything about it, was that as good as the last two?
Him: Well, what did
you think of it?
Me: I’ll tell you in
a minute. What I want to say goes back
to something I’ve been saying… I want to
get your take on it first. I’ve got
some - Well, not negative things. There’re some observations that I want to
make before I start saying I thought it was brilliant.
Him: Do you think it
was better than Robin of Sherwood?
Me: No. Different. And I think it’s a little bit of a cheek to
nick the title of a superb series for something that’s closer to Robin Hood: Men in Tights.1 Or… a scene in Time
Bandits. Or that Black Adder special we
don’t mention. With a Mark Gatiss
script, everything comes from something else.
Him: Isn’t that the
same with you?
Me: How’d you mean?
Him: Everything comes
from somewhere else.
Me: What does that
mean?
Him: You know exactly
what I mean by that, Mr Thievey.2
Me: ‘Mr Thievey’? Ha!
What’s that supposed to mean?
Him: You know what
that means.
Me: I don’t have a
clue what that means.3 Did you enjoy it?
Him: Why don’t you
tell me what you thought?
Me: Was it nice
seeing Patrick Troughton?
Him: That was… That was…
That didn’t make sense.
Me: It was pretty
strange.
Him: It’s like Tom Baker being in the Fiftieth. It’s nice
but it doesn’t make sense.
Me: Yeah. You know what I said before about the World of Fiction?
Him: Yeah.
Me: Well, there was a
reference to The Mind Robber in Robot of Sherwood. As well as Carnival of Monsters, which I
guess is the one they had to look up the refer-
Him: “As you can see,
it had the same number of footsteps as Carnival of Monsters.”
Me: No, no, no. And there was a reference to The Crusade.
Him: “This one had a
king in it. The Crusade had a king in
it.”
Me: The Doctor talks
about The Crusade and when he’s talking about Cyrano de Bergerac, that’s a
reference to The Mind Robber rather than Louise Jameson’s later career. Sticking with just Doctor Who - so, skipping all the different interpretations of Robin Hood, The Princess Bride and other stuff that Mark Gatiss references - there’s a lot of The Time Warrior in the structure, a
fair bit of The Androids of Tara… The scene where the Doctor, Robin Hood and
Clara are locked up was really good in The Day of the Doctor and works fine here. Apart from Murray Gold unfortunately
resorting to his old tricks for about four moments, I thought the rest of it
was more than okay. I was quite surprised, seeing as
there’d been so much fuss, to see-
[SCENE MISSING]
Me: Actually, I’ll
cut that bit out.
Him: Yeah, I think
you should.
Me: Alright. What did you think of the Sheriff?
Him: I’m going to
answer this in the form of a question.
What did you think of the Sheriff?
Me: I thought Ben
Miller was really good. He was subtle
and I think that helped. There’s been a lot less roaring and that’s something I’d been hoping for. The script possibly… I don’t know.
It’s pastiche. But that’s playing
up to Mark Gatiss’ strengths here because it is a comedy. Also, I think the casting so far has been
spot-on. Tom Riley, the guy playing
Robin Hood, is brilliant. That part
could’ve been a disaster. But he plays
it straight. Well, straight-ish.
Him: So, I take it
that you vastly prefer this to Vincent and the Doctor?
Me: Yes.
Him: I thought you would.
Me: Although it’s a
very different type of story. Vincent
and the Doctor…
(Pause.)
...we’ll come back to another day. Look, one of my theories is coming up in
these episodes. It made me wonder if
maybe someone’s been reading the blog other than our regulars.5 We’ll come back to that as well.
Him: Tell me your
theory.
Me: I’ll hint at
it. It all goes back to The Chase... I think there’s a case… I think that it could be argued that the
Doctor has now become such a part of the tapestry - such a part of the fabric of our
culture - that he’s now immortal. I’ve written loads about this. Basically, the
Doctor’s as real as Robin Hood is. Or
was. And, in so many ways, that makes him as real as… well… as real as any god. Y'see, there’s something very like a religion congealing around Doctor Who.6
(Long pause.)
Him: Whatever there
is, you’re a part of it. Whether you
like it or not.
Me: I’d like to think
I’m a Doctor Who agnostic.
Him: You’re not.
Me: I’m talking about
this from a anthropological point of view. Well, more
as a way of looking at human behaviour, thinking and culture than - I don’t know -
magick or something. You could say that
the Doctor is a fictional character played by different actors, but maybe
these actors are just taking turns to channel…
Look. We know that for a while, the Doctor looked out from behind
Patrick Troughton’s eyes, and also, for a while, Robin Hood looked out through
Patrick Troughton’s eyes.
Him: So that’s what
truly links them together. It’s not the
number of times they breathed, it’s not the fact that they’re both as real as
each other, it’s the fact they both were once Patrick Troughton.
Me: Possibly. The thing about The Chase that’s really cool
is that in it, without any fuss, the Doctor’s convinced for a moment that the
TARDIS has landed within human imagination.
Him: Yes.
Me: And so he thinks
that’s possible. And, if it’s possible
for the TARDIS to land within human imagination, or to land in the World of
Fiction or dreams or something then that means it could land-
Him: In the world of
Doctor Who.
Me: Yeah.
Him: Well, what do
you think The Three Doctors and The Five Doctors and The Two Doctors and 'The
Twelveteen Doctors' are?
Me: No, not
quite. Doctor Who regularly mashes
itself into other genres and styles, whether that be Sax Rohmer and Sherlock
Holmes like in Talons of Weng-Chiang, or whether it’s being rammed into – well
– Robin Hood: Men in Tights with bits of…
I don’t know. There’re moments of
Jabberwocky in tonight’s episode.
It’s quite Gilliamesque in places, mostly in the way the guard’s face is filmed. With the multi-Doctor stories, you’ve got Doctor
Who mashing itself into the different ages of Doctor Who. It becomes a different programme every time
Auntie changes the actor the Doctor’s wearing.
Multi-Doctor stories are proper time-travel. As a result, the show’s able to observe and comment upon
itself, from within itself.
It’s very interesting. Having
Robin Hood address the Doctor gives you two folk heroes, two legends, two myths, talking to each other. And that’s
really good.
Him: “MYTHS!”
Me: Ha! Yeah.
Not to get too 'meta' about it and have everybody-
Him: “Meta-myth.”
Me: -vomit into their
cornflakes, it’s-
Him: Nobody eats
cornflakes.
Me: There’s something
very special about Doctor Who. Did you
like the robots?
Him: Hmmm. I’m going to answer that with a question…
Me: No!
Him: Did you like the
robots?
Me: Ha! What did you think of the archery contest?
Him: What did you
think of the archery contest? What did
it remind you of? Where did you think it
was thieved from?
Me: It’s ‘thieved’
from the Robin Hood legend, slightly embellished to fit into Doctor Who and turned
into something approaching a comedy sketch. Played much straighter than it could’ve been.
Him: C’mon. Surely it must’ve been thieved from something
obscure that nobody else has ever heard or thought of before?
Me: Ha! Why?
(Pause. The Him’s
been waiting for this opportunity.)
Him: Because you’re a GENIUS! You’re a GENIUS who figures
out all these links!
Me: Ha! “And on that bombshell!”
Him: "The same amount
of steps! The same amount of breaths!"
Me: That’s the end of
our ‘review’…
Him: "The same amount
of BLINKING! From EXTRAS! In Episode TWO! TWENTY SECONDS IN!"
(I’m in fits at this point.
You really had to be there.
Actually, that’s a point. Where
were you? Car break down? Badger in the pipes? Hope everything’s okay.)
Me: Well, Lady and Gentleman. That’s the end of
our ‘review’ of Robot of Sherwood. Are
you looking forward to next week?
Him: Why’s it just
Robot of Sherwood?
Me: Because it wasn’t
Robins of Sherwood.
Him: But there were
lots of robots.
Me: You’re supposed
to think that Robin’s… Alright. Was the Sheriff a robot?
(The Him gives a verbal shrug.)
Me: You don’t
know? Well-
[SCENE MISSING]
Him: You’ll have to
cut all that out. And the bit where I’m
saying that you’ll have to cut all that.
Me: Yeah, I’ll fix
that. Anyway, Robot of Sherwood’s the sort of thing that
Mark Gatiss is really good at doing. He can
write comedy sketches. Something that
you’ll notice though with League of Gentlemen is that the sketches’ll end with
a punchline, which was a bit of a step backwards – although I still love the
series.
Him: You end
everything with a punchline.
Me: It’s a good way
of doing it. It signposts that we’ve
come to an end. But, if you look at Python – and there was a lot of Python in what we watched tonight… Look, I’m just observing that’s the way that
Mark Gatiss writes and sometimes it really, really works. The Crimson ‘orror was great – in my opinion,
obviously, a lot of people disagree. I
really enjoyed it.
Him: Wasn’t that the
problem with Deep Breath and Into the Dalek?
You loved them but everyone else in the world seems to hate them.
Me: They seem to've
divided opinion amongst people, which I’m a bit surprised by. Genuinely. I’m really enjoying this
series. What did you think of the next
time trailer?
Him: I don’t remember
it. It was so long ago now. We’ve been recording this for ages.
Me: I thought you
were going to say something about the feet?
Him: No, no. I’ll make that joke next time.
Me: Do you know what
the episode’s called?
Him: No.
Me: That’s a
shame. I’ve come up with a title that
covers tonight’s and next week’s and I’m quite pleased with it. Well, I haven’t come up with it as such. It’s a pastiche that I’ve thieved from
somewhere else.7
Him: Thievery! Thievery!
Me: It’s an homage.
Him: Stealery!
Me: I think it’s
“Talent imitates but genius steals.”
Him: Theftery!
Me: Ha!
Him: Purloinery!
Me:
‘Purloinery’!? What do you think
the Promised Land is?
Him: Mars.
Me: Did you like the
spoon?
Him: No. I had a lot of problems with the spoon.
Me: Did you?
Him: As I said when
we were watching it, the spoon would’ve broken unless it’s made of… dwarf star
alloy.
Me: Which would make
it a bit heavy to lift. I loved the Doctor’s glove. And what’s this
getting Peter Capaldi drenched agenda?
What’s that about? First week he
jumps in the Thames, then he’s plunged into
Dalek protein sac and this week he gets dunked by Robin Hood.
Him: Please don’t end
it there. That’s way too odd a place to
end it.
Me: Well, where shall
we end it? Shall we end it here?
Him: Is that
rhetorical question?
Me: Oh! "Did you assume the question was rhetorical,
Gisburne?" You’re not going to get
that. You haven’t watched Robin of
Sherwood, have you?
Him: No.
Me: “I assumed the
question was rhetorical, my lord.”
“Never assume anything, Gisburne. Except the occasional air of
intelligence.”
Him: No. I’ve not seen Robin of Sherwood.
Me: That’s a
shame. Nickolas Grace is fantastic as
the Sheriff. He played Einstein in a non-canonical piece of Doctor Who VAM.8
Him: ‘Ood of the
Doctor’.
Me: Something like
that. ‘Cyberman of the Daleks’.
Him: ‘Einstein of the
Doctor’.
Me: I was going to try and
mention Rammstein there.
Him: You could try
it.
Me: I’ll give it a
shot.
Him: Yeah, give it a
shot.
Me: Now we’ve got to
make barnyard noises. Tell you what, let’s just make Rammstein
noises.
(Pause.)
Him: You start.
1. As an aside, I remember
watching Robin Hood (the one with Patrick Bergin and Uma Thurman) in a cinema
in Bristle and really enjoying it. I wasn’t
impressed when it was ground into the dirt by the Bryan Adams bellowing (and
vastly inferior) Hollywood juggernaut that
came out later the same year.
2. Nope, still haven’t got a clue.
3. Seriously. Not a Scooby.4
4. As I understand
the youth say.
5. Hello to both of you! How’s it going?
6. Named after a mispronunciation of
‘Who Fan’. You know what I'm talking about.
7. Yup, that’s a callback. You’d think this was planned or something.
8. After all that nonsense earlier I’ll
have to start referring to the non-canonical bits as ‘apocrypha’.
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